I'm pretty sure essentially all HN participants understand that the frontier labs indiscriminately sucked up every bit of human output they could, IP and ethical concerns be damned. Some of that cohort may indeed be okay with it, but that doesn't change the facts.

Knowing that they trained on that data doesn't mean that you've demonstrated that they "stole" it. Certainly the courts haven't decided that in every case.

You mean you didn't know that all frontier models stole all of our knowledge and are now charging for it? It's abysmal and disgusting and we should pitchfork them all! :D